Wasn't there a quote from Augustine that you tried to find but ended up not being able to in the debate?
What was it and the reference, can you tell me?
Thanks!
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Dr Svendsen,
Wasn't there a quote from Augustine that you tried to find but ended up not being able to in the debate? What was it and the reference, can you tell me? Thanks! |
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NTRMin |
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I don't recall not being able to find a quote from Augustine. What was the context?
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Rhology |
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I meant the one you referred to in your own review of the debate:
There are many thing I wish now I would have said and done differently (a quotation from Augustine's view of what "this is my body" means to counter Pacwa's closing statement come to mind). But this kind of reflection is typical of these kinds of events. |
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DTKing |
Eric can correct me... | #3 | ||
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...but he may have possibly meant this sermon of Augustine. I give it to you in its entirety, though it was very short.
This is from the Rotelle series....John E. Rotelle, O.S.A., ed., Works of Saint Augustine, Sermons, Part 3, Vol. 7, trans. Edmund Hill, O.P., Sermon 272 (Hyde Park: New City Press, 1993), pp. 300-301. Quote: DTK |
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NTRMin |
That one's good too . . . | #4 | ||
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. . . but the one I had in mind was this:
'To be sure, we often speak in the following way: As Pascha approaches, we say that tomorrow, or the day after, is the Passion of the Lord, although He suffered so many years before, and His Passion occurred only once. Indeed, on that particular Lords Day we say Today the Lord has risen, although many, many years have passed since the time when he arose. Why is it that there is no one so foolish as to accuse us of being liars when we speak in this way? It is because we name these days according to a likeness to the days on which those events took place. Thus a day, which is not the actual day, but like to it in the circle of the year, takes its name from the actual day because of the celebration of the sacrament which occurred, not on the very day of the celebration, but long ago. . . . For if sacraments did not have a certain likeness to the things of which they are the sacraments, they would not be sacraments at all. . . . Therefore . . . in a certain way the sacrament of the body of Christ is the body of Christ.' (Augustine, Letter 98.9) |
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| St Augustine quote that you couldn't find in the debate | 05/25/07 11:27:07 | Rhology |
| Re: St Augustine quote that you couldn't find in the debate | 05/26/07 13:37:02 | NTRMin |
| Re: St Augustine quote that you couldn't find in the debate | 05/29/07 08:03:38 | Rhology |
| Eric can correct me... | 05/29/07 10:00:03 | DTKing |
| That one's good too . . . | 05/29/07 15:08:45 | NTRMin |